<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298592546960825255</id><updated>2011-12-12T16:19:06.222-08:00</updated><title type='text'>WHO'S NWO</title><subtitle type='html'>Hi welcome to my Blog page.

I have created this page to give people an chance to check out any research I do and be informed of any events I attend.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://whosnwo.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1298592546960825255/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://whosnwo.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Paul Obertelli</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08272824220964802505</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>3</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298592546960825255.post-2726699181458063323</id><published>2011-10-16T03:59:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-10-16T03:59:37.575-07:00</updated><title type='text'>October 15th Occupy London (St Paul's Cathedral)</title><content type='html'>Hello Guys&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sorry I have not been posting much but I have been busy being an evolving human during the year 2011 and also busy with my music which assists!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yesderday I attended the London Protests, 2 to 3 thousand protesters hit the streets by the Stock exchange and St Pauls Cathedral. I have not usually been one to attend such events either because of being too busy or admitedly maybe because a part of your mind see's it as quite daunting and a hassle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This time because a few friends had brought it to my attention and I was in London that day it made me question my self and decide to go.&amp;nbsp; I am often one to step forward and air my views to people and remind them or teach them how the powers of the world are nothing more that powerful criminals who gain there power from us. So why not step up and make up the numbers there?&amp;nbsp; I think if anyone reading has felt the same about such days then you should do the same and get down and show the system that there is not as much apathy in the masses as they like to think!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was meant to meet a couple friends there but they ended up being too busy so I planned to go alone which sometimes I like as you can really observe and look around and see more. &lt;br /&gt;I had a gig later in the night so drove my gear down to the gig venue and then parked up, took my banner and got the train to the protest. (I did however leave my Camera behind which really annoyed me as I wanted to get loads of footage! :( )&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dcrwCtkQ6pc/Tpq12juw1JI/AAAAAAAAADE/RIb7ybx5KQg/s1600/banner.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dcrwCtkQ6pc/Tpq12juw1JI/AAAAAAAAADE/RIb7ybx5KQg/s320/banner.jpg" width="240" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;I was pleased with how many people liked my banner, loads of pics of it so let me know if you see one! :)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the way to the protest I bumped into a young chap who had two large wooden poles and a bag of cloth with him who asked me if I was heading to the protest so I sat with him and listened to his other experiences with protests. He was a member of the &lt;a href="http://www.solfed.org.uk/"&gt;"Solidarity Federation"&lt;/a&gt; his name I cant recall as Im a retard when it comes to names! :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I chat to him about his group and arrived at the protest with him and met his group. I was really impressed at seeing so many young people making such an effort to make a political difference to things.&amp;nbsp; While I dont feel we need groups as such as they can sometimes make the cause easier to identify and oppress, they are still a great start! and I respected them, and would support them. Many would turn their nose up as soon as reading their support for comunist values, But the bottom line is the main cause it to remove dictating governments and put all desision making and powerful choices into the peoples hands, which is currently is not the case.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QXCuonkagnI/Tpqoyac89II/AAAAAAAAAB0/cFrKqg6rmME/s1600/solfed.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QXCuonkagnI/Tpqoyac89II/AAAAAAAAAB0/cFrKqg6rmME/s320/solfed.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Solidarity Federation&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We Arrived at St Pauls Cathedral at about 12:15 and shortly after a speaker took a mic and started to express the importance of the event and get the crowd motivated for the day.&lt;br /&gt;Then the crowd moved towards the stock exchange entrance which was guarded by a line of police, and chanted&amp;nbsp; "You say cut backs, we say fight back".&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then the crowds started to move around the back of the church but were blocked by police. So a small group gathered with a Mic and tried to arrange the protest more so there would be more power in numbers.. There were suggestions of&amp;nbsp; circling St Pauls and the area and also walking to the houses of parliament.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-P10JAIbbXwg/TpqsPdtpowI/AAAAAAAAAB8/Wk0VHdVMOqQ/s1600/talk.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-P10JAIbbXwg/TpqsPdtpowI/AAAAAAAAAB8/Wk0VHdVMOqQ/s320/talk.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But any plans were dashed when the police decided to cut off the whole area so people could not get in, or get out..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2byhuIRk0I0/TpqthGldi1I/AAAAAAAAACM/uz156yPsE_E/s1600/line2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2byhuIRk0I0/TpqthGldi1I/AAAAAAAAACM/uz156yPsE_E/s320/line2.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mMdE0-B-1IQ/TpqtQxEwCTI/AAAAAAAAACE/y8OKCaDZmt4/s1600/line+1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mMdE0-B-1IQ/TpqtQxEwCTI/AAAAAAAAACE/y8OKCaDZmt4/s320/line+1.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do not hold a grudge at all these police men and women as they are just doing their job. But the agenda the police force had was allwasy going to be the cause of any real trouble, as prior to that there was no sign of it apart from people actualy enjoying them sevles and peacfully expressing their dislike for wealthy criminals.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First of all you can see the Lorry in the above picture who was held up there for hours, as well as fully loaded buses... A good ingredient for confrontation and friction.&lt;br /&gt;Then of course there is the fact that people found them selves trapped against their will with the human rights removed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There was clearly no threat of violence before they decided to do this and thankfully did not look like the people were going to start at any time soon, while some infact decided to use the blocked off road to play a game of football.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EenCTC1I-hk/TpqvKyytMbI/AAAAAAAAACU/02msx8v-WyU/s1600/footb.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EenCTC1I-hk/TpqvKyytMbI/AAAAAAAAACU/02msx8v-WyU/s320/footb.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There were several TV stations there talking to the protesters and I infact done a small audio interview for a German Radio where I spoke my mind, shame I could not see if it went on air!. The strage thing is, I did not see any Sky TV or BBC there... or CNN or Fox news... But it was all Arab stations and Oriental ones.&lt;br /&gt;For me this was strange and was an example of how the Western Media looks to cover up so much to its people.&amp;nbsp; I imagine there must have been some UK press there but compared to the rest it was very poor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-19rfwpkcP9g/TpqxZsrkquI/AAAAAAAAACc/JlzDSBsQze8/s1600/libia.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-19rfwpkcP9g/TpqxZsrkquI/AAAAAAAAACc/JlzDSBsQze8/s320/libia.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;A Libyan TV channel broadcasting while an angry protester calls them "Evil" and a disgrace for lies about Libya which lead to many innocent deaths to men women and children. He was approached by police but was smart and kept his cool.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DBkqBSzTXUA/TpqxfAXFoFI/AAAAAAAAACk/4RWRfVrVVMI/s1600/jap.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DBkqBSzTXUA/TpqxfAXFoFI/AAAAAAAAACk/4RWRfVrVVMI/s320/jap.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;A Protester being interviewed by what I think was a Chinese channel&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While this protest was not quite as spectacular as others around the world, there was still 2 to 3 thousand people occupying a large area in London making their point, enough so for the police to block the whole place off. and Certainly enough to make a point!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pGAcN_JPj8E/TpqyrdFKYgI/AAAAAAAAAC0/smFgkKLUSuM/s1600/big.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pGAcN_JPj8E/TpqyrdFKYgI/AAAAAAAAAC0/smFgkKLUSuM/s320/big.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Where most people gathered.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dXKJZb2FIX4/TpqypJC8llI/AAAAAAAAACs/B6kqiyiP1z8/s1600/wiki.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dXKJZb2FIX4/TpqypJC8llI/AAAAAAAAACs/B6kqiyiP1z8/s320/wiki.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;The crowd started to get angry when the Police would not let the founder of wikileaks Julian Assange in to speak through the mic, they eventually let him in.&lt;b&gt; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;I was getting worried about not being able to get out as I had a gig to get to, so I put my banner down and started to look for a way out, After a while I saw a spot where they were letting people seep out.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;The last thing I saw was these guys who had the right idea :)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--DDl89GOg-c/Tpq0J-tW54I/AAAAAAAAAC8/vMbsi269ztQ/s1600/music.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--DDl89GOg-c/Tpq0J-tW54I/AAAAAAAAAC8/vMbsi269ztQ/s320/music.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Its a shame the others who came down were not able to get in and make up even more numbers but I guess thats just what "They" did not want.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt; I decided that I will certainly make more of an effort to go to these things in the future as I think we all should because you definitely feel the power of unity there and if everyone else dropped what they were doing and joined in then the effect would be immediate. There will allways be political differences with us, but the most important thing is that WE the people have control over our world, not an elite group of greedy selfish bastards who have no interest in anything other than their own ideals.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Thanks for reading.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1298592546960825255-2726699181458063323?l=whosnwo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://whosnwo.blogspot.com/feeds/2726699181458063323/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://whosnwo.blogspot.com/2011/10/october-15th-occupy-london-st-pauls.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1298592546960825255/posts/default/2726699181458063323'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1298592546960825255/posts/default/2726699181458063323'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://whosnwo.blogspot.com/2011/10/october-15th-occupy-london-st-pauls.html' title='October 15th Occupy London (St Paul&apos;s Cathedral)'/><author><name>Paul Obertelli</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08272824220964802505</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dcrwCtkQ6pc/Tpq12juw1JI/AAAAAAAAADE/RIb7ybx5KQg/s72-c/banner.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298592546960825255.post-231000984423336010</id><published>2010-07-07T17:44:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-09T07:31:49.497-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Lady Ga Ga Symbolism.</title><content type='html'>I thought I would let you guys see this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm not a huge fan of her but with all the fuss I checked out some vids and came across some youtube vids pointing out some dodgy symbolism in there. I am referring to the "Poke her face" video.  Ok, I don't always support all the OTT narrow minded christian take on allot of this stuff, as it tends to be quite limited and with a Satan means bad, Christ Means good perspective, where I personally feel there is a tad bit more to it than that. But that being said, IMO there certainly is something sinister with allot of stuff like this out there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Straight away I picked up on the opening scene which for me looks very much like a depiction of the moon tarot card.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pazrockweb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/gaga1.JPG" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" src="http://www.pazrockweb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/gaga1.JPG" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; height: 271px; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; width: 396px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Most Tarot Moon cards look like the following..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pazrockweb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/moon2.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/%20http://www.pazrockweb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/moon3.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" src="http://www.pazrockweb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/moon3.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; height: 343px; width: 200px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pazrockweb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Moon1.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" src="http://www.pazrockweb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Moon1.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; float: left; height: 264px; margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; width: 150px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/%20http://www.pazrockweb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/moon2.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" src="http://www.pazrockweb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/moon2.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; height: 450px; width: 338px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The trail going between the two towers represents going into a deeper state of conciousness.. like dreaming.  In the gaga video we see it reversed as she is coming towards us.. meaning? (read the middle pillar by Israel Regardi)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The card generally means the subconscious, illusion... awareness...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Go here for a deeper insight, Michael Tsarion's card descriptions are very thorough and good.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.taroscopes.com/major/moon.html"&gt;http://www.taroscopes.com/major/moon.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note that the lyrics in the song are about card games, stating how she would like to hold the cards.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I want to hold them like they do in texas plays"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She (They) wants to hold the cards.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then moments after that scene we see in the next shot maybe a symbol of the Moon again.. in the back ground.. here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/%20http://www.pazrockweb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/gaga2.JPG" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" src="http://www.pazrockweb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/gaga2.JPG" style="cursor: pointer; height: 224px; width: 394px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course she could be talking about holding the cards as a lady and "Get him HARD and show him what she's got" .. Like sexy girl power innuendo..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But all very fitting..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hhmmmm..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Im not one to lose composure over this stuff, But I just don't get a great vibe from this other than my first impression of her all in one PVC suit when I first pressed play :)! .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For me the start is a depiction of the moon tarot card... which symbolises her tapping into your subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is just something i picked up on, there are videos in youtube that point out many other blatant things in there, just do your self a favour and think beyond the "Lucifer", or "Satan" stuff and do a bit of research.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also you might want to check out her lyrics she gets away with during prime time air play...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some have already pointed out how she really says " P P P P P P P P Fuck Her face" slowed down versions of it on youtube confirm this.  And if you listen she also says "I'll get him HARD" as opposed to get him HOT.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now I am not one of these people who think sex is negative and evil... in fact I think we live in a society that suffers from a history of sexual oppression, this is another subject.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But the point being is that these lyrics go out to very young kids.. a little bit bellow the belt if you ask me. I think mums and dads should do the birds and bee's thing not some pop video out to make a fortune and create an idol.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for reading.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1298592546960825255-231000984423336010?l=whosnwo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://whosnwo.blogspot.com/feeds/231000984423336010/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://whosnwo.blogspot.com/2010/07/lady-ga-ga-symbolism.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1298592546960825255/posts/default/231000984423336010'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1298592546960825255/posts/default/231000984423336010'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://whosnwo.blogspot.com/2010/07/lady-ga-ga-symbolism.html' title='Lady Ga Ga Symbolism.'/><author><name>Paul Obertelli</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08272824220964802505</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298592546960825255.post-5524893590687417134</id><published>2010-05-19T01:59:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-11T05:43:20.643-07:00</updated><title type='text'>David Icke</title><content type='html'>Hi Peeps&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will start off by righting an article on David Icke, Seeing as recently I went to his talk at the Brixton Academy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;David Icke has been researching subjects on spirituality, the nature of reality, our society, and the planet for nearly 20 years. His career began as a professional goal keeper but after having to retire early due to Arthritis he became a sports presenter on the BBC and then a spokes person for the Green Party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;During his time working for the BBC through to his move into politics he describes a series of spiritual experiences which changed his life and pretty much cost him his job at the BBC, also making him become disillusioned with mainstream politics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you were to walk up to someone and ask them about David Icke you could have your money on them saying,” You mean the guy who thinks he's Jesus”..or "ahhh!, the son of God"!? .. or "ahhh!, the guy who talks about the space lizards!", with a few smirks and laughs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The frustrating is, for those who have actually read his books, we see that the manipulated perception these people see him through is what allot of Icke's work looks to expose!  Funny enough, they don’t see it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Despite the fact David has written many books over the last 20 odd years with a continually expanding audience, most people will judge him from a stage in his life 20 years ago, a time he has since admitted to not having both his feet on the ground and losing the plot after what he would describe as a huge spiritual life changing experience he went through. Not because he was a "loon" like many seem eager to claim, but because he was overwhelmed. Why else would a guy with a decent career and future suddenly decide the throw it all away and face huge ridicule?.  I'm surprised that did not pop into more peoples heads.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My interest in him stared due to a very simple observation, which is, if a person is truly loosing the plot and going mad then why the hell was the mainstream media and every tom dick and harry mocking and laughing and using someone's supposed mental illness and downfall as entertainment?.  The BBC and Terry Wogan came across as people more suited to a primary school play ground than a mainstream TV station.  If Icke was indeed going crazy then what a horrible uncompassionate  bunch the British mainstream and public were!. What about David's family?, His TV career and life in tatters?.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course after looking at David's work I understood why they were so aggressively negative to Icke and it was because he, like very few at the time, was sticking his neck out and indulging in some very reviling subjects that affect us all.  Now,  regardless of how many of his claims people view as way too outlandish, the fact is he hits on some very potent and relevant subjects the mainstream media are only to desperate for people to ignore.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since the days of ridicule and talking to tiny audiences inside local council halls Icke has reappeared on the Terry Wogan show, though this time Terry was the one laughed at and Icke was a bit more prepared and equipped to present his views.  He has also appeared on a channel 5 TV documentary called "David Icke, Was he right".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today he sells out talks at the Brixton Academy and other large venues around the globe. This underlines how times have changed since the days of the first Terry Wogan appearance where he was mocked. But despite his naive approach back then, the laughter can now be heard for what it was, ignorance,  immaturity, and certainly the tone of a crowed with little awareness of what laid ahead of them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have moderated on the David Icke forum off and on for a few years and I offer support to him,  because regardless of what you agree with or don’t,  he offers a genuine debate on truth and underlines many crimes that go on everyday that are ignored or unseen, he also underlines how conditioned and narrow minded people are today, by design.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;David Icke's views&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;David Icke believes that many many years ago the planet was manipulated and infiltrated by an ETE intelligence and that they planted a control system in place that has manipulated events on earth and our way of life ever since. He describes these ETEs as a reptilian kind of being, though they do not generally operate on a physical level like you and I but exist on a different frequency level just outside of our "reality" (another plane).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He believes these beings have infiltrated various secret society's like the Freemasons and the Fabien society who he thinks are collectively known as the "Illuminati", operating secretly and controlling politics, education,  banking and more.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The people supporting this are interacting with these entities through ritual, and that not only do they interact with them but also offer human sacrifice to them, and as disturbing as it sounds using young children in sexual ceremonial sacrifices, for a most potent offering.  Unfortunately there is allot of research out there to support the possibility of this act. Today the political agenda Icke refers to is recognised as the "New World Order" and the signs of its unveiling are growing stronger each and every day. &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;But David’s views are not all negative, in fact he believes like many today that we are in times of awakening... a quickening, where the human being is waking up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When one learns that the actual word Apocalypse means "Unveiling" or "Relieving" then it kind of brings a new angle to it, rather than the Hollywood promoted ignorant perception of it where it is presented as meaning the end of the planet or the end of our life on the planet. Its best to judge a word by what it actually means I think!!.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;We are no doubt seeing earthly changes but this does not mean they will destroy everything we see.  I might add it also does not mean we are suffering a Global warming scenario... as it can be argued that other planets are also going through changes and the whole Global warming thing is just another ploy to make money out of a situation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway,  David's view is that this new stage we are at, this awakening,  will empower more people over time and as much as we have a bumpy ride ahead, the controllers are growing weaker and finding it harder to control us as they have done for so long, loosing their grip,  which is why they are so desperate to update the world we live in and gain more control. I guess now the name of my blog page might be a little clearer to you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Far out claims&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;David Icke is known for being out there and not holding back on the most crazy beliefs, and one that he still strongly supports today is the reptilian thing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He has claimed that many people during moments of high emotion like anger, sex, or fear, people all over the world have reported seeing people actually alter appearance and shift into what looks like a reptilian type of being and return to normal again.  This info has of course brought him more ridicule and laughter, Although a simple deeper view on what he is saying and a little read up on what quantum physics can prove today shows that the idea may not be totally impossible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My understanding of this and how something can alter appearance is that one must understand how our brains brake down "appearance" in general, which when looked at scientifically is basically the same as how a computer receives code and puts all these words on this screen, the words are not really here, they are a program!, and if your program glitches, maybe the graphics will blur, smudge, or freeze… this is generally how Icke describes it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those who have experimented with hallucinogenic drugs may have an understanding of how the brain can alter the appearance of something,  so can perhaps view these ideas with more of an more open mind, especially when we consider that the main thing most hallucinogenic drugs have been proven to do to the body,  is actually make a larger percentage of the brain more responsive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I am actually very open to people seeing these "Shape shifts", although my advice is, when you hear someone talk about "David Icke and the space lizards" just tell to go and actually do some reading if they are eager to comment,  as they are clearly not ready to open their minds or to look into the theory properly, I guess its their choice but its not the best way to expand their minds.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is no talk of "lizards" in David’s books really. However,  the "reptile" is one of the most potent life forms on the earth and has been even more so in history, Even the human body has some reptilian genetics and even a part of our brain is called the "Reptilian brain", its not only about watching too much star wars or star trek, there is heaps of research that cry out for answers, and what ever truth lies behind them I support anything and anyone that remains inquisitive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;The "Moon Matrix"&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another far fetched theory that has been presented in David Icke's latest book is his view that the Moon is a constructed artefact used for a long time to manipulate Earth, affecting our minds and the planet. Its not the first time this theory has been around and Icke him self forwarded some books that he him self had read and states that he had to read them after a gut feeling on how important the moon was to the whole agenda.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I first heard this I was very sceptical, But after checking the info, while there is nothing conclusive to say he is right in what it is, there is certainly enough info to say that what people think the moon is, is in fact wrong. And I do remain very open minded in his views on what he calls the "Moon matrix". Its also interesting that recently allot of researchers are now pointing out that Mars's moon "Phobos" is also hollow and could well be a space station, these possibilities are starting to surface. I would suggest keeping an open mind and have seen no reason for NASA to gain such undeniable trust, far from it.  If you are eager to question David Icke then you are crazy to let NASA off the hook.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Now on to some niggles.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think its very rare you will find an Author or researcher who you agree with word for word. and Icke is no different.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is one area in particular that never really sits well with me, and that's his general view on the Occult, Satanism, Magic, and various people through the years involved with such.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, David has always rejected religion and highlighted it as a form of control and with lots of disinformation within it.  Like a growing number of people today he feels that Jesus is more than likely a fictional character, underlining the vast number of parallel similarities the story of Jesus has with older pagan gods and deities. Often David has pointed out how Christianity and the bible is full of lies and that it offers a very little in terms of spiritual development.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While all that is said,  has also made it clear that he thinks the "powers that be" are interacting (through ritual) with the reptilian beings, who he has also linked to the Annunaki who were believed to have been a race from ancient Sumeria and were worshipped as Gods and often depicted in reptilian like form.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, that's all well and good, but he also claims the rituals the elite do are "Satanic" and often labels occult people and movements as "Satanic". For me this is a bit of a contradiction and what it does is it can lead to many false judgements within the occult world, which happens allot.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who are the controllers interacting with? A race of malevolent reptilian beings?  Or Satan? The enemy of Christ that the bible speaks of, the bible that David thinks is a corrupt and orchestrated document.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It’s this subject where I just can’t really get down with Icke. His deeper research into the occult world is very vague and limited and he has never really gone deeply into the subject, only covering the surface because it resonates with his other theories, that are of course interesting. But often a closer look into the occult stuff raises many questions. Its worth noting that the awakening he talks of has been a potent understanding in the occult world for a long time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another example is, he has often attacked Aleister Crowley as a "Satanist" and implied that he was apart of the elite who worship these reptiles and serve them. But for me, someone who has read some of Crowley’s works, I see much of Crowley's work being complimentary to David's, all be it Crowley's having a very dark and sinister nature. I, like many others feel he was a very misunderstood person and like David very often the victim of a controlling and manipulative mainstream media. Today we see many of the people who would brand Crowley as every type of criminal under the sun through hear say and religious propaganda, Also take swipes at David for being a "wolf in sheep’s clothing"... a "false prophet sent by Satan" and so on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Davids talk at Brixton he quoted Crowley as saying the following&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;font style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;"&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;I want  blasphemy, murder, rape, revolution, anything, bad"&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But anyone who has really read and understood Crowley and where he was coming from will know that there was far more to him than this and there are many quotes you can take from him out of context. and here is the full quote.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;font style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;"&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;“After five years of  folly and weakness, miscalled politeness, tact, discretion, care for the feeling  of others, I am weary of it. I say today: to hell with Christianity,  Rationalism, Buddhism, all the lumber of the centuries. I bring you a positive and  primeval fact, Magic by name; and with this I will build me a new Heaven and new  Earth. I want none of your faint approval or faint dispraise; I want blasphemy, murder, rape, revolution, anything, bad or good, but strong.”&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ok not exactly the most peaceful statement he came out with, but in the right context its more understandable, Much heavy metal bands today expressing them selves to the extreme and against the oppressive nature of religion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and you can understand more about Crowley buy reading more, like the following..&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;font class="Apple-style-span" size="small" style=" font-weight: bold; "&gt;"The Key to this Message is this word-Will. The first         obvious meaning of this Law is confirmed by antithesis;         “The word of Sin is Restriction.”&lt;/font&gt;         &lt;p style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;Again: “Thou hast no right but to do thy will. Do         that and no other shall say nay. For pure will,         unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result,         is every way perfect.”&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;Take this carefully; it seems to imply a theory that         if every man and every woman did his and her will—the         true will—there would be no clashing. “Every man and         every woman is a star,” and each star moves in an         appointed path without interference. There is plenty of         room for all; it is only disorder that creates confusion.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;From these considerations it should be clear that “Do         what thou wilt” does not mean “Do what you like.” It         is the apotheosis of Freedom; but it is also the         strictest possible bond."&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;and&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;b style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;"To practice black magic you have to violate every principle of  science, decency, and intelligence. You must be obsessed with an insane  idea of the importance of the petty object of your wretched and selfish  desires.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;font style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; I have been accused of being a "black magician." No more foolish  statement was ever made about me. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;b style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;I despise the thing to such an  extent that I can hardly believe in the existence of people so debased  and idiotic as to practice it."&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;I admit Crowley will always raise a controversial debate with some not liking him and some liking him as I do. And David rightfully has his view.  but I was disappointed how he has not really covered the ground sufficiently &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font class="Apple-style-span" size="medium" style=" ;"&gt;before making such strong implications. C&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;concepts of things such as Lucifer and Satan should be looked into with great depth, looking into&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt; what they are and where they came from, not just who has flashed their supposed symbols.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt; I think its important to note that these philosophies are not always practised by evil people and it is wrong to brand them as the mainstream does and always has.&lt;/font&gt;.. For me I view Magic like fire, you can hurt your self with it or you can hurt others with it, but you can also use it to keep warm, to cook food, sterilise something, or create energy.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All that being said,  I can live with all that for Icke,  for the sacrifice and hard work Icke has put in and the much truth he does put out there, I support him and wish him well, He believes in freedom which will always permit those to research what they so wish, which can never be a bad thing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;”Cool” Anti David Icke people&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Within the “truth movement” or what ever you want to call “it”, there does seem to be an attitude a few have regarding Icke and it seems to be this arrogant *I used to read Icke but now I'm more advanced* kind of attitude and it always makes me laugh as I just don’t see that attitude as particularly enlightened or advanced. I find it a bit egotistical, insecure and pointless.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Fair enough you might have read all you need to read from the guy, but he is still fantastic at what he does and is constantly bringing more people into these subjects and making them look, to a scale no other can really do. And all of this from his own hard work and belief.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Anyone who is really smart will know that for all of us its worth while to see more people open their minds and remove them selves from the box minded society we are all rounded into everyday. David assists in this very much so.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are also some people who show what can easily be described as an obsessive anti Icke stance. For me, anyone that is obsessed with someone they don’t like is clearly the person with an issue. You see videos on youtube created by people regularly taking time out their week to attack him. Its understandable how you will get many Christians or other religious people attacking him because they have been designed to attack or condemn such people by their faith, and they very rarely show the capability of thinking for them selves. But it does not always end with a religious protest.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You see forums created by people banned from his forum for throwing their dummies out of the pram because no one cared much for their dogmatic and imposing perspective. These people are completely convinced that anyone who shows an interest in Icke is either foolish, crazy, or crooked. But the real clanger for me is that  for some odd reason, when you look at the major issues around the world currently, for these passionate anti David Icke folk, informing people who enjoy Ickes work that they are crazy, crooked, or foolish, is high at the top of their priority list!.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They will desperately tell you he is "all about the money" ... or he is all about "plagiarism". And many will even go so far as to scrutinise him to the max and call him out as a Freemason!. Yes the guy who accuses the top degree Freemasons of being child raping, child killing, worshippers of man kinds enemy, and jail keepers of man kind.... Is a Freemason, according to them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Now don't get me wrong, I'm not one to put all my belief in anything I do not know %100, and I so not live with David Icke. But I just don't like to put such energy and thought space claiming as a fact such baseless illogical accusations that have 0 evidence!.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First of all Im sure Icke is happy to make money, he has not always been where he is now and has had to work his socks off to get there, he has a family and is not getting any younger, so why would he not be interested in making money? The Internet is swamped with his free interviews, performances and so on, but he charges for his latest work, I see no big deal in this and wish him all the best as I like to see hard work pay off.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secondly there is no plagiarism in this stuff, its info and info is not a personal possession, its not entertainment, its not Hollywood, Its about presentation and expanding info. On top of that, Icke is constantly referring to people and books he gets info from, and will always tie it into his general take on what's going on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for the Freemason accusations, most of this came from a guy called Alan Watt who I will cover in a future article, I will just say I have seen him use misleading info to attack many people in this movement and is quite frankly a trouble maker who is far from a trustworthy source him self IMO.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So due to so many views on Icke, my opinion is to ignore them all and pick up a book with an open mind and read.  As long as you do not limit your shelf to David Icke books and simply want to learn more and research more, then he is a GREAT read.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Stay tuned for more articles!.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1298592546960825255-5524893590687417134?l=whosnwo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://whosnwo.blogspot.com/feeds/5524893590687417134/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://whosnwo.blogspot.com/2010/05/david-icke.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1298592546960825255/posts/default/5524893590687417134'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1298592546960825255/posts/default/5524893590687417134'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://whosnwo.blogspot.com/2010/05/david-icke.html' title='David Icke'/><author><name>Paul Obertelli</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08272824220964802505</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
